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no mistake the word war on women was thrown out there deliberately. airmass stake was they took it too far. that is the second point when dealing with perception. the spin of politics. take a kernel of truth and spin it enough to make a case and the case comes out in this end to be completely invalid but it doesn't matter. take for instance if you go too far you failed. the argument, you have seen it, james carville made that point earlier but the obama campaign ignored it. you guys are out there said james carville some months ago saying that the economy has turned around and going well. that won't work. do not go there. they ignored it.
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we heard last week the private sector is just fine. everybody said what? even democrats were bailing off that ship. time out. not fine. why did he say that? his campaign was going to try to sell four million new jobs in the last x number of months or years are things moving in the right direction and pull a few facts and sent it that things are on the right track. things are going to improve. the problem is more people lost jobs and homes and fallen into poverty in the two-1/2 years the man has been president that it is hard to convince people things are okay. gas prices are shooting up, everyone having kids are coming home. that is not the right direction when kids are moving back home especially when they have children.
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so he sends this message and they back up with facts and i am constantly hearing four million new jobs and i am thinking forty-three million unemployed people. they stick to it is saying is turning around but they overplayed their hands when it came to the economy and they are backtracking because you can't convince people of something they know every single day is not the case. they're worried about their job or a loved one has no job and looking for 16 months and there's little hope and terrified their own companies might lose contracts. people are nervous and you cannot tell them everything is fine. they are not relaxed. that is when you overplay because you have both those things. words are very important. the words they use. they don't take it too far so
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you lose credibility because -- than the third thing. let me spend a minute on it. somebody to help you carry the ball. republicans will say obama did this and nobody says anything and that is the end of the story. a couple of us on television for an afternoon and that is the end but if the media picks up for and runs with and get excited then you have enormous momentum and day in and day out you can start considering a proposition and take a look at it and see if you can't sell it. that is what the media has done effectively for the democrats and they do it continually. over the years i have been in politics i have always known the media was on the left and that is where they leaned and you always have a disadvantage in the sense that they are more against you on the media than they will ever before you and at times you wouldn't get a fair opportunity to make your case.
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you always knew that but things have changed. we have fox and brush and lots of radio shows so we are well aware of the disadvantaged. always have been and turned the corner and have a lot of advantages now. the media by definition is supposed to be the kind of an institution that keeps honesty with elective officials and candidates and movements to make certain they are honest about what they are presenting but -- people getting the facts and that is where they have gone overboard. it is ridiculous. this war on women for instance. basically there was a federal assault on religious freedom when it came -- the catholic church and reduce institutions were to be forced to pay for abortion and contraception and
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things that are against their religious beliefs. there is no way this will survive a supreme court challenge. but they were adamant they are going to do this and of course the feminists would love it and the liberals would rally around the president so we made the case on our side of the party and other constitutional scholars went out and said this is an absolute outrageous assault on religious freedom of institutions and individuals. you can't do this. within a few days -- within a few days we had a war on women. we were going after their contraception. this is outrageous. you are going to take contraception away from women. how did i get from here to here? no longer any discussion -- talk
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about religious freedom at this point but talked-about the war on women. that was the proposition. you go on television. dick gregory had an interview with john mccain and he said do you think there's something of what war on women among republicans? not a suggestion by democrats, ask them how they can make this case if it is overboard, he said make the presumption and have the republicans defend so we are defending ourselves say we are not taking anybody's contraception away. what a ridiculous debate. only one reason. we are not talking about the most important thing to women. that is the key. that is the key. this is the politics. they need for women to win in november. not only do -- women can vote
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more for democrats than men. they are hurting with men badly. they need to win big. they decided we got to go to the women and strip women of the republican vote. this is key to us. and so they came up with this war on women to make republicans without wages in that way. i will take a little credit for something. this is the week where i am trying to figure out how to talk about the first amendment and in 30 years i never had any woman say to me why you trying to take my contraception way? what you talking about? having a hard time making this case. the mitt romney campaign with to my work called me and said we have some new information. i was doing a conference call and they were talking about some
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research they have done. of all these people more people lost jobs under obama. 93% of those who lost jobs are women. did you just say 93%? 93% of the jobs lost, women account for them. this is wonderful. not that i want to see women losing jobs but this the little nugget is going to turn this argument around quite nicely so we have a conference call with a number of the press, three of a speaking on the conference call and a former senator spoke first and i spoke and said if you want to have a real discussion about a war on women you should hightailed it to the white house because not only do they have problems with how they pay women in the white house legal the white house staff but women account for 93% of the jobs
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lost. barack obama and his policies women are losing jobs, 400,000. some local elected officials spoke on a phone call. every single question of the media we had nbc on the phone and cbs was to me. what was that number? the war on women head to the white house. they are the ones -- do i think this is an exaggeration? of course not. you want to call war on women let's talk about the real war on women and that is the economy. the jobs. what do women care about the most? i was a single mom. taking care of our kids and making sure we can provide for them and likewise very women. you think they went to see their husbands lose their jobs or lose their job? how about kids? you think women are worried about kids graduating having hopes and dreams, graduating
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from college. you think they're concerned 50% of them are not getting jobs that require any kind of college education whatsoever? they are not using their training and have huge debts and are moving home? you don't think this is a concern? they show enormous disrespect for women if they think women are more worried about some phony war on their contraception more than the economy. they have it all wrong and that is the key. they know they have a problem in the economy and women are suffering. they no small businesswomen know that they can stay alive if they have their taxes continuing to go up and regulation continue to increase. they know they're in trouble. they need to take care of themselves and their families and they need their husbands to do the same. that is where the strongest argument goes. respect women and poles are overwhelming. doesn't matter if you are male
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or female. what are the issues in this election? the economy, jobs, excess spending in washington, health care. those of the things we are worried about and we win on those but -- so today i saw the new obama add -- close the we have time for questions. the new obama ad is on women. he comes out with a picture of the president, son of a single mom. father of three daughters and he cares about women. first thing he did was sign this bill that gave equal pay to women which was not equal pay for women. that already existed. gave them the ability to sue more easily in the workplace. and obama believes in fairness for women. like we don't? excuse me. it is not war on women.
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it is fairness and that is where they will go. they will pull back from work and go on the fairness. we have to go back up to these policies that have undermined women who are trying to make a living and take care of themselves and be able to have their hopes and dreams and possibility for them in their own lives and the lives of their kids. that is where we go and we win. let me tell you this is going to be a tough five months because they need those women sir you can expect every possible accusation against republicans every single stage that we don't support women, that we want to undermine or suppress their freedoms and their rights and their opportunities and every opportunity we have. it is ludicrous and ridiculous and i believe they have overplayed their hand. they may do it again but right now i see this fairness argument. the key is to go back to the
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economy and hit it and hit it and we will be able to help women for the next four years get back on their feet and have their homes over their heads and look forward to the future and the future for their children. thank you very much. >> we have time for questions and answers right now. if you will please go to the microphone and you can line up there. that is fine. give us your name and where you go to school before you ask your question. >> i have a question for christina. i go to nc state university and an aunt in turn. my question has to do with the patriot act and the wonder if you could give your insight on that. >> is this on?
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this act was introduced a-it is predicator on the assumption that the reason they earn less than men is unscrupulous employers. it dismays me to see this sort of language right there in the bill because there's no evidence that any responsible economists who looks at the wage gap sees there are innocent explanations that have nothing to do with mean-spirited unscrupulous employers. what does the bill ask for? we already have sins the 60s against discrimination, wage discrimination. if you try to pay jill's $0.76 for the same job give jack $1 jill can take you to court.
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the paycheck fairness act is about the women's groups say the reason women are paid less for certain jobs is because of the legacy of discrimination. in the bill it says employers are not only responsible for not discriminating but they cannot pay if it is based on a legacy of discrimination. what does that mean? employers have no idea. i know what it means having been a student of feminist economics. the women's group sins activists in washington -- let's say you pay universities will often pay professors in law school more than the school of social work. they pay professors of engineers more than they pay professors of education. there are more men in engineering and in schools of education so there will be a disparity of pay. most of us would say it is
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market driven. you don't pay engineers a lot of money they will get so much more it would be hard to recruit them. it is impossible to attract them without these salaries. what women's groups will say is isn't this part of a legacy where women's job say social work or nurturing jobs are given less value than jobs in business? they could actually go into court and try to make this case and they would have feminists, economists and activists on their side and typically you get employers wanting to settle the case and not go to court because it is so expensive so made it easier to soo for all the nebula's reasons that only hot line feminists truly understand and lasting i will say is the paycheck fairness act is allegedly part of the war on women that republicans prevented from coming to a vote recently. the washington post came out against it.
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the boston globe. the two senators from maine who often vote for feminist issues were against it. senator snow and senator collins -- it was a very clever power grab by hard-line feminist litigators. go ahead. >> i go to the pacific university and this question is for lala mooney. give us your memories when you first came to the states when friends would say they don't want to live here anymore. give us your memories when you first came here. >> all right. you are all going to be surprised. i am one of 14 brothers and
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sisters. i have eight carol and six boys. the first apartment we rented, we would hide and make sure people were being counted. but then america was good, the economy was good. all the people in our church helped us and i learned english and we were able to get ahead. i married an american. i was first in my family to marry an american and my mom used to say you took a risk. my little children, what do you mean a risk? later on the good news is we did real well. my brother became the mayor of
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miami three times aunt and my son alex got elected to the state senator at age 27 and i am looking at all of you. in a couple years you could all be state senators and at the same time i am torn by thinking if you were in cuba you would have been part of that culture where the family thinks of u.s. someone that can bring money. let me leave you with that idea. i see your young faces and your beautiful colors, the pain of coming from a country where this is accepted. the mentality of cuba would put you in a different situation. thank you. >> i am from the university of
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virginia, my question is in regards to religious women. i remember reading that women in general are more religious than men or religion is a very important part of life including myself. in some cases sort of rejected concerns of religious women and just those women who don't want to be a man and don't want to finance the sexual legislation system and worry about our own cells and our own families. the wonder if you could speak to that. >> the long history of conservative feminism, there was
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-- there is a tradition we believe lost continents for leverage movie heroines are not celebrating women's history. they're not in a feminist and the an but they were there and played a critical role. frances willard in the nineteenth century was a leader of the christian temperance union. we think of temperance as a very outdated cause but at the time it was a feminist issue because it was fought to -- during was implicated in family violence and desertion and all the leading feminists were in the temperance movement but frances willard was able to attract a lot of religious women. initially this was not a popular cause. it wasn't that men were against it but many women work against suffrage because -- for
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complicated reasons. if you appeal to them -- abstract ideals they were unmoved. what frances willard did was show how women could protect the homes they dearly love and protect their families and she attracted mainstream religious women into the movement. there's a wonderful sociologists who has shown how women made the greatest progress when there was a conservative wing in the movement and they worked together and that is a big problem today. we don't have a conservative wing. we don't even have a moderate wing. only a radical wing. the official voice of women is from the hard-line left wing feminists. women's proof talk about women having been marginalized. they turned around and found a
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movement that marginalized the majority of their sisters. i do encourage you to begin to organized around women's issues. support groups like the clear blue institute and organizations on your own campus. demand a place in the women's center and that you be heard at have a voice. there is a battle to take back feminism from the feminists. it is too important to be left in their hands. >> somebody just mentioned -- agree with everything but if you look at modern feminism today, it is driven by self. women need to do what is best for them. i'm not ready to have a child the decision should be made to have a child and it is my right to decide. if i'm pregnant i should be able to abort the child and have
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opportunities and it plays into this idea that if you are a mother full time at home, you heard from one of the feminists a couple months ago you never need to work today in your life because they don't respect stay at home moms. you need to be fulfilled to be in the workplace. you need to be higher education. it is all about me getting more knowledge and more experience and more opportunities in the professional fields. if you look at religion, religion honors service. that is where they say real happiness comes from. use serve your families and your husband and their to make life easier for them. you get pregnant, not expected, not timely you put your child first and change your life in order to make it so it all works. you have to put them first. it is two different philosophies and once you recognize that you
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listen to those women. i was on television as a single mom of three kids. someone is going to say you need to find time for yourself in your home, you need your own space. your own space? i go to take a shower and the kids come in. would you talking about? there is no known time. you are part of a family. listen to them and you will constantly see a very selfish seem run through most all of their arguments and that is where the religion -- >> i am in my senior year and -- i just have a question -- recently i read a book called maning up. it was interesting it with how in the last 20 years basically
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the feminist movement everything they wanted has succeeded. 30-year-old women are making more money than men. colleges and grad school, almost seems it is almost fantasy that if they succeeded somehow the notion of women's rights actually hurting -- i was wondering if you have any thoughts, it seems one more than the other. and trying -- and anything trying to do that.
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>> the big challenge for many of you college-educated women is to find a young man as educated as you are because as you said the women's movement has succeeded and i must say many years ago i was inspired by the young women. they were ambitious and better students and moving ahead and i became concerned how we were treating boy is. i looked at classrooms across the country and there are a lot of policies to come out of education that emanate from gender scholars at major universities that treat boys, treat masculinity as toxic. look at the way little boys play, rough-and-tumble play, they take a dim view of that questions mostly are run by women for girls and boys are there on sufferance. they are further behind and bear the brunt of a lot of bad
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policies. it would be one thing if -- their mind is the educational system and you saw girls moving ahead. i see so many policies that have a disparate impact on young men and no one speaks up and the reason is there is this structural asymmetry. we have a network of women's organizations like you have never seen. a juggernaut marching in sisterly solidarity and their monitoring every move and tell us of activity and our affect women and girls. there is a monolith for women, where are the organizations that look at the impact on young men? we have major efforts to strengthen girls in math and science. i am in favor of that. where the initiative to strengthen boys in reading and writing and literacy and college attendance? nowhere. if you try to propose them groups like the a a w say that is just backlash. trying to take away what we have
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given to women because they see the world as a 0 sum game. most women don't see the world that way. we have sons. we have male friends, husband's and their future is our future. if we had more moderate conservative women in the women's movement we would assert that connection but the lack of our voice has led to this complete imbalance in representation for women and men. >> my name is kathy. my question is we learned that -- [inaudible] my question is where would you
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start? getting them to the other side. do you have a story of friends or women leaders who have started -- that would happen? maybe something -- [inaudible] where do you start? >> i will take that. first of all, you yourself have to become very bold and assertive in your expression of what you believe. you can't what the effect that you are a conservative minority on a college campus and be intimidated by that. you have to live your life as a woman who truly believes in this country and all the opportunities available to you
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but also believes in family and if your religious you have those beliefs and you have values and you live them and you live them boldly and don't let people intimidate you and you can't talk like that. that is politically insensitive. i am an american and i say what i believe. then you become not leader in your own sphere. i have given many speeches on college campuses and ten years ago my girlfriends and i laughed at you and what you said was nonsense but now we are mothers and it is a different light than you are right. that is not all bad. that is what you can do. they say you got it all wrong. obama is the best thing in the world. 400,000 women lost jobs with him. you think matt is a good? affect the economy is in trouble, make them think. challenge them. don't let them intimidate you so you become someone who they remember an four or five years
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one now when they can't find a job maybe she had a.-- they had a point. my son is a law student and got a bonus because he graduated from law school, they lived on loans. he was so excited. they got $4,500 and the rest went to taxes. he made no money. he said that is how it works because it is a dividend or something and she is devastated. that it happened to a few left wingers and they will say what is this and all of a sudden they will be conservative when it comes to fiscal issues in a short time because they want to make a living too. you guys have to be your own leaders in your own sphere and grow from there and become stronger if you are determined to be someone who speaks for
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those principles and values that means something to you. not to just be quiet in the corner and say those guys are all wrong but not say anything. make yourself be that person. >> here i go again, bay buchanan. going to college. [inaudible] -- popularizing the conservative dish? how you are going to -- [inaudible] >> again, as i said, the first thing, number one, just get a few that are important to you and start debating them. i am talking about how you did this. all of us do the same thing and speak about it and make points
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and opportunities. if you are strong pro-life i won't to you find some pro-choice and make your case to them and say you got it all wrong. every time a child's life is taken how can you -- they will beat the blazers out of you with their argument. you need to keep coming back. i also believe some conservatives disagree with me on this, i am not an in-your-face kind of person. i will take you on if you take me on and hold my own body essentially i have a sense of humor and a sense of respect goes a great deal, goes a great distance. you see them the next day and you lost that primary, your man is not doing well. laugh about it. you knocked us off our game plan yesterday. you know what i mean? weather in local politics or issues that are happening for
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presidential. don't let anybody get away with dismissing you or ridiculing for making you feel uncomfortable. you come right back even if you are not sure what you're going to say. your intensity and your beliefs, that sells. might not to the person who are talking to you but people observing you say that person seriously believes this. i respect them how they are standing up. they will consider what you said. might not work this year but maybe next year end you can make a difference. that is how you so conservatism in my opinion. it sells real well because we are right. >> my name is laura. my question is for lala.
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[inaudible] >> those stories, told me it was nighttime all that they. all he had was a potato so he looked at that potato and was going to cook it the next day. what does he eat the next day? he cut it in half and he ate half and save have for the next day. one of the things most journalists or anybody who goes to cuba fails to see, even cubans who go to cuba fail to see the way food controls everybody. many times when you don't have any food to offer to your child, take a little bit of sugar, put it in the water, shake it, this
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is your meal for today and for tomorrow. you might take -- i am doing a demonstration because we cover a lot of abstract thoughts here and i would like you to remember this. this is your meal for today. so as bay buchanan said, women are responsible for our children's food so the heartbreaking thing is it is difficult to see how they control you. you had become a white giving you an example real quick. the economist is a well-known magazine. when the economy comes to food
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the economists said six months ago. the ration card is food. how can a good journalist be so full? this is what fidel castro has done all over the world. all over the world people think our health is good in cuba and medicine is good in cuba. indicate presents to my friends in cuba? a ziploc with ten aspirin. a government controlled economy is totally different. thank you for asking.
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>> [inaudible] i was wondering if the individual mandate is constitutional and move forward. the what do you think the republican staff involved with health care as right now -- [inaudible] people talking about competition -- [inaudible] in a more broad sense how do you think the republicans will go about fixing the health care bill? >> i cannot speak for the legislators but i can say what we are hoping to see. when congress passed this law they dealt with the coverage
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issue and not the cost issue and for small-business owners i represent, even if we win we still want reform. you alluded to solutions out there. we definitely think just like life insurance you should be able to buy health insurance across state lines. insurance should be affordable. i represent -- don't want to offer health insurance to their employees but we're getting into -- increasingly become the case that people are tied to their employers through their insurance and if we could all be treated the same under the tax system, you get tax-free dollars to buy a policy than it does become truly portable. you get to pick what you want and what works for you. the problem with this law is all the mandates.
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it is not just about having insurance but what kind of insurance you have and this came out in the oral arguments from the chief justice which is a lot of people are never going to need substance abuse treatment. but under this law all of us will have to buy a policy that includes that which means we're paying extra for something that in many instances we are never going to need. we want more flexibility. people to be able to truly pick what is it i need? a lot of centers i represent the needs -- don't need medical expenses. they can pay to go to the doctor. they need true insurance that helps if you get a catastrophic illness or get hit by the proverbial bus. that is what the government keeps coming 2. all those people go to the emergency room and the rest of us have to pay their bills. under this law that kind of
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catastrophic coverage is still legal. you cannot buy a policy under this law that would just cover those types of illnesses. many of my members that is all they need and what they want. they want more police, not less and more affordability of insurance and equal tax treatment. >> i am president of students for life group and interning with students for life. my question is for christina hoff summers. among my peers i have noticed in order to be a woman you almost need to become -- we are expected to sterilize ourselves because the top professions, whar and academia and medicine -- in terms of time. by the time you finish your medical residency your years of fertility are over. is a struggle for a woman who
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wants to be ahead and trying to balance -- to sterilize myself but at the same time might not want to wait till i am done with medical school. i wonder if you have advice on how different structures or how to balance that. >> these are very big questions and it would be nice if we had a women's movement that is responsive to them. from the beginning of the second wave of feminism very good at telling them and how to not have children, the right to abort if you get pregnant, birth control. they're good at that. what about women who want to have children? what are the policies that they encouraged to make that possible? i don't see them. that is a huge problem with contemporary feminism.
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is not responsive -- you look at new foundation for the london school of economics and study women's preferences you find 20% of women are high-powered careers the match for any man and you will see them at the height of success. they are very devoted. 20% of women just want to stay home. some great misfortune -- they want to be home and find children as traditional wives and mothers would 60% of us are in the middle. most women in the middle behave more like stay at home moms. they went creative balance between workplace and home life. there is an article today that came out of the atlantic that caused a stir on the front page of the new york times, the evan
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bayh anne-marie slaughter -- not pursuing any more power in washington. she had a 12-year-old boy who was skipping school and the husband was trying to handle it and women are very distracted by children. not easy to put them in a care and go away all day and a lot of men can do that. they find it possible. we need a women's movement that is responsible to meeting that reality. i can refer you to organizations that are responsibly addressing this issue because there are few, very small. the majority of the women's movement engendered -- they're
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convinced gender is arbitrary, cultural socialization, no difference between men and women. give little girls trucks and little boys dolls end your problems will be solved because we will be a gender neutral population. it never happened. a feminist fairy tale from the 1970s. mother nature appears not to be that politically correct. there are differences. you see it is causing a stir because it makes feminists and nervous when women admit they have a special attraction to the domestic sphere. it is about getting women out in the public sphere. we needed that but better if we had a movement that was reality base which most women want to be in both years and men's relation to the domestic sphere is very
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different. >> excellent question. all of them have been. specifically what you have to come to grips with is one of the ladies said it is hard to be equal. is not hard to be equal if you recognize you are not the same. we are not the same as men and shouldn't try to be. why would we want to be? we got the better end of the deal. we have enormous talents and at this age you want to pursue them. everything you might want to do. if you want to be a doctor go for it. go to that law school. doesn't mean postpone dating or a family. this is what you are doing right now. but the key is to keep your mind open to other possibilities. as you are going through school and you meet somebody and get your degree maybe you say i will take the bar and work part time
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or not going to go the corporate roof or do this. you have all kinds of choices available to you. don't not get the education or say i want to be married -- you don't know it will conflict and you don't know you will find the right person at the right time. go as fast and hard as you want when it comes to education. get as much experience in this world and enjoy life and the opportunity to be married and have a family grasp it too. so many professional women try to do all things. one was an attorney climbing the corporate ladder and another was a pediatrician and the kids came and they were not happy because they want to be home at 5:00 or 6:00 or available for school players and the pressure of work. it wasn't working and it won't.
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you can have all things but what they did, her husband, my brother, will become a profit shooter. forget the corporate ladder. she became a prosecutor, assistant u.s. attorney. then she became a judge. so then she is home and it is a wonderful profession. she is top notch in the legal profession. the doctor became an emergency room doctor and her husband home with the kids and able to keep -- for a number of years. first class medical experience. that is where your options are. keep your mind open to any variation. when those kids come that is when you put them first. now they are first. what can i do to make sure i am there when they need me?
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any variation is up to you or your husband how you work out what is best with your family. don't think the best thing is to wait 20 years and hope you have a family than because if you believe that you might read those silly magazines on the line of the safeway where everyone is trying to have babies at 40 and spending huge sums of money and not having husbands. they were sold a bill of goods. they turned 40 and 45 years old and realize i have a profession and that is all i have and they want to have a family. that is the bill of goods. don't buy into that. there's nothing better than being a wife and a mother and a family that is harmonious and works together in the interest of all. >> i just want to add i don't
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want you to take it as incorrigible problem. opportunity and you are coming along and entering college and some will go to graduate school. you can change things. especially conservative women there's a desperate need for your presence in shaping policies and debating these issues and journalists writing the articles that appear in women's magazines that influence so many young women. there is a great opportunity because right now a major correction. the women's movement is dysfunctional and informs everything we read. they have a monopoly on knowledge about women and that knowledge is not trust worthy. it is an enormous opportunity. i can concurred you enough to pursue careers where you can change the way we talk about men and women.
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doesn't have to be eccentric feminist with odd theories about the world. they should not have a monopoly on how we think about it. >> our last one. time for one more. >> my name is emily. imus senior at emory university at the policy institute. my question is for christina hoff summers and bay buchanan. as a woman in college being active -- of lot of my friends think that i am anti woman. [inaudible] posing as a woman. not really a woman. [inaudible] what can i say to my friends that would convince them or show
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case that conservatives and republicans really are pro woman? >> i am thinking about young women who invited me to mount holyoke college. i was part of the conservatives coming out week. much scarier to come out of the republican than gay. they approached it as -- the l a students were pretty cool about it. realized they were being in tolerance. liberals don't like to be intolerant. it is one way to tell them they
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are practicing kind of bigotry and closed mindedness they disapproved of in this of many other people. almost as if they dehumanize you if you are a conservative or completely overlooked you are acumen be in with opinions that may be different from theirs and they have to be more open-minded. i would use that were language. tolerance and inclusiveness. see how it works. it is tough out there. everybody on the panel has probably experienced over the years some kind of indication that you are on the wrong side and hurt women's cause and hold us back and not versus and you feel it enormously. any number of stories about what you experience on a college
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campus. i learned something from my dad, and basketball -- he is to say the best defense is a strong offense. as soon as you feel you are in defensive posture, they are feeling intimidated. don't let people make you feel that way. if we are talking about beliefs, don't let anybody make you feel that way. the only way to do that is get to them. put it back on them. if it is pro-life, how can you
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take women's rights away? constitutional rights and this and that ad have somebody tell us what to do with our bodies. what about the life of your child? you become passionate about the child. but it the second victim. have you talked to women or read about women? do you know what you are doing? make them stop and be on the defense. you will get an enormous amount of energy as you defend those things you believe. you will feel stronger. you may not be as particulate. they may throw questions you don't know the answers. we have all been there. that is how we got the answers. we didn't know it so we talked to one another and got the answers. that is how we learned to be different from others. you practice and practice. this is what i say to everyone of you. the moment you feel defensive and hesitant you know you are not ready for this battle and you better get ready.
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you better stand a little taller and speak a little louder because you can change lives. you can save lives. you can move people to take -- make better decisions in their own lives. make a difference in your family or your community. if you speak out with confidence and clarity, if you don't speak you cannot do any of the above. you will be a follower. you will be quiet and content to say they are wrong and i am right. start now. and speak. on college campuses i will tell you the same thing. the moment i feel hesitant and uncomfortable i thank the lord because i know i am not ready so i'd better keep working. i better get more information on this issue. i don't want to feel this way. and don't want people to -- i don't know the answer to their question. i will find them and study and
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ask people and i am coming back and i will keep coming back until nobody makes me feel this way again. then you can unchanged things. in the last with your 30 years too many conservatives have been hesitant for quiet. if we had not been we would not be in the mess we're in today. we need you as leaders, not follower and there's no better leader than a conservative woman. get in line. [applause] >> thank you all very much. thanks to our panelists. that was wonderful. i know there were other questions. i am sure they would be happy to talk to you. if you would like any more information about the policy institute, bring a great woman speaker to your campus this coming year please give us a call at 888-891-2488 or visit
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our web site. two quick things before you run off. sitting on your chairs, filled out front and back quickly before you go, hand them to a staff member. some free best selling conservative books and you only qualify if you filled out. second thing, we have the next big event coming up. these are also on your chair on friday, july 27th we have the annual capitol hill seminar. stock parker and newt gingrich confirmed and more speakers on the way. make sure you register for that. thank you very much. [inaudible] [inaudible conversations]

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